Muslim Chicks Kick Ball ... this time!
Iranian players Saedeh Ahmadi, 11, right, and Shihrin Nasiri, 22, left, fights for ball with Stephanie Al-Naber, 8, of Jordan, center, during the final match at the West Asian Soccer Federation Women's Championship cup in Amman, Jordan
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hat tip to my friend Huda in Bahrain
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4:53 PMI fights with myself not to laugh at loud at how crazy they look in their hijab....and your grammar.
12:56 AM
at loud? you're all fucking crazy.
6:38 PM
I Fights…..
You're talking about Grammar, Chick your Grammar First, Smart @$$
8:24 PM
Dude, Chick yor grammar?? I Fights??
If you want to make snide cracks, at least take soem grammar courses.
I admit that the hijabs don't look too comfortable in hot weather, but that is the uniform and it doesn't restrict her ability to play the game.
10:49 PM
Reminds me of my college roommate, who was from a strict Protestant Christian sect and got the OK to wear a full sweat suit instead of shorts for phys ed classes. She did just fine. (It helps that we had, like, six months of winter there!) Nobody but her husband (and her roommates) will ever know that she had a perfect 36-24-36 figure.
6:58 AM
Dear Ihath,
Miss A&T will wear her jeweled tiara above her hajib:
Click here to read and see.
Getting back to football, the early American football helmets were little more than a secured piece of leather on the players' heads -- a little better than a hijab, and worn only by men. Here is an early one. There was even one that reminds me of a burka, here.
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5:56 AM
Dear Ihath,
I remember when I was very young, that many/most American women wore pretty scarves, hats, and veils on their heads. It was also normal to see men wearing hats to match their jackets/suits. Now it's quite rare.
Recently I saw an astonishingly pretty, attractive, even sexy woman who was covered head to foot with only her eyes visible. I've seen plenty of the plain, drab, conservative Arab or whatever style dress that some apparently Muslim women wear around here. But this one shocked me with her beauty. The fabric was absolutely beautiful. The pattern was flowing, and the fabric was wrapped around her, revealing the overall figure of her body but showing no skin at all. I guess her hands were visible, and her shoes, but I did not notice. She had spent some time on the one part that did show through -- her eyes. There was some makeup on them, and it was not overdone -- they were perfect. The overall effect was amazing. I was shocked that I could be 'turned on' by a woman completely covered up! I couldn't believe it!
So, I wonder why women who choose to dress in this style (covered up from head to foot), are usually seen in relatively ugly fabrics. Why don't they get some decent looking fabrics to make their clothes from? They don't need to wrap their bodies tightly; I can understand that. But they could cover themselves with something pretty and help to beautify where ever they happen to be. Like a bunch of beautiful flowers, instead of a pile of rags.
Speaking of ugly clothes, remember when American women wore pretty dresses? Today they are rare. The young women today look like crap in comparison. They are showing more skin and looking less lovely.
So I think all the conservative chicks of whatever faiths should pretty themselves up while covering themselves up. It's good that they are trying to dress smart and show that they are valuable and precious. However, they also need to pay attention to the fabrics they dress with. They need to set a good example for all the stupid women who dress like harlots, and show them how to be very attractive while very covered.
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9:46 AM
I'm not sure the title "Muslim chicks" qualifies here as Stephanie Al-Naber from Jordan is actually a Jordanian Christian. I would suggest changing the title of your entry to "Middle Eastern" women.
10:20 AM
first of all to all you "anonymous" people posting your comments, i understand you have the right to be ignorant, i respect that, it's part of the American way of raising you losers. second, as far as the hijab goes, in is not your business what Muslim girls wear. this is religious wear, it serves a purpose, not to cover up "ugly women" as you might put it. But to cover a woman's beauty that should only be seen by her husband. there is no reason for a man to see an other man's wife's body. Also to ward off temptation. don't get me wrong, my point isn't that Muslim women are all beautiful, just like any other women in the world, there are beautiful ones and ugly ones. I've been at the beach plenty times, and God I've wished some of those big fat ugly women where Muslim to cover up that nasty blubber.
any way back to my point, Islam is a religion that covers every aspect of life, most important, family. when Muslim girls or women wear hijab, they are not wearing it because they are "oppressed" like most of you would like to put it. i would say American women are the ones who are really oppressed. domestic violence (wife and child abuse) , rape, child rape by family members, girls growing up without father figures to support them resorting to a life in "adult entertainment" (strippers, hookers, porn). divorce rate in Muslim families is the lowest among all religions, that is a fact. so go ahead and show your true colors and say the real reason you have a problem with hijab, your hatred for Islam period. i can name a bunch of Christian or catholic countries who's women wear scarves or rags which look like they are still in medieval times, Russia, Ireland, Poland, Bulgaria and don't forget Africa. As for the person whose said muslim women should at least wear "pretty scarves," the ones wearing the "ugly hijab" are poor and that's all they can afford. we have here in America men, women and children how where clothes some would call rags because of there financial status. Many Muslim women wear desinger scavres not for it to be easy on your eyes, but because they have class.
10:20 AM
first of all to all you "anonymous" people posting your comments, i understand you have the right to be ignorant, i respect that, it's part of the American way of raising you losers. second, as far as the hijab goes, in is not your business what Muslim girls wear. this is religious wear, it serves a purpose, not to cover up "ugly women" as you might put it. But to cover a woman's beauty that should only be seen by her husband. there is no reason for a man to see an other man's wife's body. Also to ward off temptation. don't get me wrong, my point isn't that Muslim women are all beautiful, just like any other women in the world, there are beautiful ones and ugly ones. I've been at the beach plenty times, and God I've wished some of those big fat ugly women where Muslim to cover up that nasty blubber.
any way back to my point, Islam is a religion that covers every aspect of life, most important, family. when Muslim girls or women wear hijab, they are not wearing it because they are "oppressed" like most of you would like to put it. i would say American women are the ones who are really oppressed. domestic violence (wife and child abuse) , rape, child rape by family members, girls growing up without father figures to support them resorting to a life in "adult entertainment" (strippers, hookers, porn). divorce rate in Muslim families is the lowest among all religions, that is a fact. so go ahead and show your true colors and say the real reason you have a problem with hijab, your hatred for Islam period. i can name a bunch of Christian or catholic countries who's women wear scarves or rags which look like they are still in medieval times, Russia, Ireland, Poland, Bulgaria and don't forget Africa. As for the person whose said muslim women should at least wear "pretty scarves," the ones wearing the "ugly hijab" are poor and that's all they can afford. we have here in America men, women and children how where clothes some would call rags because of there financial status. Many Muslim women wear desinger scavres not for it to be easy on your eyes, but because they have class.
10:33 AM
first of all to all you "anonymous" people posting your comments, i understand you have the right to be ignorant, i respect that, it's part of the American way of raising you losers. second, as far as the hijab goes, in is not your business what Muslim girls wear. this is religious wear, it serves a purpose, not to cover up "ugly women" as you might put it. But to cover a woman's beauty that should only be seen by her husband. there is no reason for a man to see an other man's wife's body. Also to ward off temptation. don't get me wrong, my point isn't that Muslim women are all beautiful, just like any other women in the world, there are beautiful ones and ugly ones. I've been at the beach plenty times, and God I've wished some of those big fat ugly women where Muslim to cover up that nasty blubber.
any way back to my point, Islam is a religion that covers every aspect of life, most important, family. when Muslim girls or women wear hijab, they are not wearing it because they are "oppressed" like most of you would like to put it. i would say American women are the ones who are really oppressed. domestic violence (wife and child abuse) , rape, child rape by family members, girls growing up without father figures to support them resorting to a life in "adult entertainment" (strippers, hookers, porn). divorce rate in Muslim families is the lowest among all religions, that is a fact. so go ahead and show your true colors and say the real reason you have a problem with hijab, your hatred for Islam period. i can name a bunch of Christian or catholic countries who's women wear scarves or rags which look like they are still in medieval times, Russia, Ireland, Poland, Bulgaria and don't forget Africa. As for the person whose said muslim women should at least wear "pretty scarves," the ones wearing the "ugly hijab" are poor and that's all they can afford. we have here in America men, women and children how where clothes some would call rags because of there financial status.
10:40 AM
first of all to all you "anonymous" people posting your comments, i understand you have the right to be ignorant, i respect that, it's part of the American way of raising you losers. second, as far as the hijab goes, in is not your business what Muslim girls wear. this is religious wear, it serves a purpose, not to cover up "ugly women" as you might put it. But to cover a woman's beauty that should only be seen by her husband. there is no reason for a man to see an other man's wife's body. Also to ward off temptation. don't get me wrong, my point isn't that Muslim women are all beautiful, just like any other women in the world, there are beautiful ones and ugly ones. I've been at the beach plenty times, and God I've wished some of those big fat ugly women where Muslim to cover up that nasty blubber.
any way back to my point, Islam is a religion that covers every aspect of life, most important, family. when Muslim girls or women wear hijab, they are not wearing it because they are "oppressed" like most of you would like to put it. i would say American women are the ones who are really oppressed. domestic violence (wife and child abuse) , rape, child rape by family members, girls growing up without father figures to support them resorting to a life in "adult entertainment" (strippers, hookers, porn). divorce rate in Muslim families is the lowest among all religions, that is a fact. so go ahead and show your true colors and say the real reason you have a problem with hijab, your hatred for Islam period. i can name a bunch of Christian or catholic countries who's women wear scarves or rags which look like they are still in medieval times, Russia, Ireland, Poland, Bulgaria and don't forget Africa. As for the person whose said muslim women should at least wear "pretty scarves," the ones wearing the "ugly hijab" are poor and that's all they can afford. we have here in America men, women and children how where clothes some would call rags because of there financial status.
10:40 AM
first of all to all you "anonymous" people posting your comments, i understand you have the right to be ignorant, i respect that, it's part of the American way of raising you losers. second, as far as the hijab goes, in is not your business what Muslim girls wear. this is religious wear, it serves a purpose, not to cover up "ugly women" as you might put it. But to cover a woman's beauty that should only be seen by her husband. there is no reason for a man to see an other man's wife's body. Also to ward off temptation. don't get me wrong, my point isn't that Muslim women are all beautiful, just like any other women in the world, there are beautiful ones and ugly ones. I've been at the beach plenty times, and God I've wished some of those big fat ugly women where Muslim to cover up that nasty blubber.
any way back to my point, Islam is a religion that covers every aspect of life, most important, family. when Muslim girls or women wear hijab, they are not wearing it because they are "oppressed" like most of you would like to put it. i would say American women are the ones who are really oppressed. domestic violence (wife and child abuse) , rape, child rape by family members, girls growing up without father figures to support them resorting to a life in "adult entertainment" (strippers, hookers, porn). divorce rate in Muslim families is the lowest among all religions, that is a fact. so go ahead and show your true colors and say the real reason you have a problem with hijab, your hatred for Islam period. i can name a bunch of Christian or catholic countries who's women wear scarves or rags which look like they are still in medieval times, Russia, Ireland, Poland, Bulgaria and don't forget Africa. As for the person whose said muslim women should at least wear "pretty scarves," the ones wearing the "ugly hijab" are poor and that's all they can afford. we have here in America men, women and children how where clothes some would call rags because of there financial status.
11:05 AM
first of all to all you "anonymous" people posting your comments, i understand you have the right to be ignorant, i respect that, it's part of the American way of raising you losers. second, as far as the hijab goes, in is not your business what Muslim girls wear. this is religious wear, it serves a purpose, not to cover up "ugly women" as you might put it. But to cover a woman's beauty that should only be seen by her husband. there is no reason for a man to see an other man's wife's body. Also to ward off temptation. don't get me wrong, my point isn't that Muslim women are all beautiful, just like any other women in the world, there are beautiful ones and ugly ones. I've been at the beach plenty times, and God I've wished some of those big fat ugly women where Muslim to cover up that nasty blubber.
any way back to my point, Islam is a religion that covers every aspect of life, most important, family. when Muslim girls or women wear hijab, they are not wearing it because they are "oppressed" like most of you would like to put it. i would say American women are the ones who are really oppressed. domestic violence (wife and child abuse) , rape, child rape by family members, girls growing up without father figures to support them resorting to a life in "adult entertainment" (strippers, hookers, porn). divorce rate in Muslim families is the lowest among all religions, that is a fact. so go ahead and show your true colors and say the real reason you have a problem with hijab, your hatred for Islam period. i can name a bunch of Christian or catholic countries who's women wear scarves or rags which look like they are still in medieval times, Russia, Ireland, Poland, Bulgaria and don't forget Africa. As for the person whose said muslim women should at least wear "pretty scarves," the ones wearing the "ugly hijab" are poor and that's all they can afford. we have here in America men, women and children how where clothes some would call rags because of there financial status.
12:07 PM
Radi,
In the interests of eliminating some ignorance, here is a link showing the various types of veils some Muslim women wear:
Muslim Veils
The shockingly pretty, attractive and beautiful one that I mentioned in my earlier comment, was some variation on the niqab style.
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12:36 PM
radi, i appeciate your racism. thank you for calling me and my american family losers. i will be sure to let them know how muslims like yourself view us.
thomas, i believe the anon post wrote "i fights" to mock ihath, who used poor grammar in her caption.
1:10 PM
i know for a fact that muslims cover up themselves because they want to let their souls speak, and not be judged by their appearances. instead of letting guys fall in love with a girl with big boobs and beautiful body, she covers up so that the guy'd pay attention to her personality and intelligence, etc, etc. people get the wrong idea of muslim girls being prisoned at home and are not allowed to do this and that. the hijab does not stop one from doing any activities. where i live, anyone can play badminton, netball, football, hockey, etc, if they want to. your race/religion does not stop you from doing something.
5:18 AM
An interesting article from Reuters on Mulsim women in sports:
Muslim Mirza caught up in cultural protest
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:18 PM ET
By N. Ananthanarayanan
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - After zooming from anonymity into the hearts of her nation in just 10 months, India's teenage tennis sensation Sania Mirza was caught up in a cultural protest for breaking the mold by being a Muslim athlete.
The 18-year-old Mirza has surmounted religious barriers to surge from 206th in the women's world rankings last December to 34th this week.
Her rise has not gone unnoticed by radical Islamic clerics in largely Hindu but officially secular India, home to some 130 million Muslims.
Mirza was given extra security last month after an Islamic cleric denounced her for wearing short skirts and sleeveless shirts on court and threatened to stop her playing in a WTA event in Kolkata.
Other Muslim groups denounced the edict, with a Madrassas (Islamic schools) board in an eastern Indian state even saying it planned to insert a chapter on Mirza into its school books.
Mirza's status as a youth icon in a country starved of sporting success quickly helped her to ride out the controversy.
Women in more conservative Muslim nations usually face a daunting challenge in their quest for sporting glory.
They have to wear modest clothes to avoid offending religious and social mores and compete in front of crowds made up only of women and accompanied men.
TRACKSUIT TROUSERS
Afghanistan's Lima Azimi made history two years ago in Paris by becoming the first woman from her ravaged country to take part in the world athletics championships.
Running in a gray T-shirt and black tracksuit trousers, rather than the body suit worn by her rivals, she clocked a modest 18.37 seconds and was eliminated in her 100 meters heats.
"It was not important for me to run fast but it was very important to participate," she said.
Azimi's humble feat came 19 years after Moroccan Nawal El Moutawakel became the first woman from a Muslim nation to win Olympic gold with victory in the 400 meters hurdles in Los Angeles.
Mirza, born to educated, wealthy parents, has been hailed for her self-confidence and maturity beyond her age in a nation which won only one medal in each of the last three Olympics.
In January, she became the first Indian woman to reach round three of a grand slam at the Australian Open.
She notched up more firsts by claiming India's maiden WTA title before breaking into the top 100 in the rankings. Her run to the U.S. Open fourth round in September lifted her to a career-high 31st in the world.
Mirza herself has remained untouched by the attention she has attracted, appearing in a T-shirt bearing the slogan: "I'm old enough to know better, but still too young to care."
Indian broadcaster Rajdeep Sardesai criticized the complaint about Mirza's playing attire.
"The obvious response of right-thinking, reasonable Indians would be that Sania should be seen for what she is: a talented 18-year-old representing the country on the world stage and reveling in the attention," Sardesai wrote in a newspaper column.
"Why see Sania in any narrow, bigoted sense, even if only as a symbol of minority achievement?"
DRESS CODE
Pakistani tennis player Mariam Rahim remains frustrated by the dress code in her own country.
"We don't have any choice," she said. "I wear salwar kameez (loose-fitting long shirt and trousers). It is also a very difficult crowd here.
"If you want quality, then these things should change."
Sports officials in Islamic Pakistan are hopeful that change will come.
Pakistan recently organized its first national women's soccer championship, although under strictly segregated conditions.
Pakistan athletics federation secretary Mohd Khalid Mehmood said: "We can't follow immediately...slowly, slowly, not all of a sudden."
"These days women have been empowered so things are getting better for them," Pakistan women's cricket captain Shamsha Hashmi told Reuters from Lahore.
"Earlier, we had to face a lot of problems from religious fanatics but more women are coming into sports now and families are more supportive."
Fatima Lakhani, who was Pakistan's chef-de-mission at the recent Islamic Games in Tehran, said sports organizations wanted clothing manufactures to design sportswear that would allow women to move freely without offending religious sensibilities.
"We'll try to find ways and means of clothing to build the standard," she said from Karachi. "At least they will be able to participate."
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1:50 PM
They look really odd, but it is good as a beginning
1:16 PM
they look strange but at least there kicking
12:07 PM
we may luk odd but atleast we have the respect to cover ourself not showing our bodies to impress were all humans and y cant u jus respect the fact that we cover our faces
12:10 PM
we dont say ne thing about ur mini skirts
12:14 PM
plus i wudlike to say it is fard meanin wemuslims have to do this it may not say it in the quran but it does in some other books so wehave to cover our faces in fact sum children start coverin there faces at the age of 9! so i wud like to say let us COVER OUR FACES!
11:24 PM
radi
you rock, i'm a muslim gir too and i wear a scarf to school and let me just say i have the most beautiulest air. you really spoke out the truth and you rock. Plus i
6:49 PM
I don't believe we have to cover our faces, infact, Aisha, one of the prophit Muhammad's (may peace be upon him) wives, was know for her beauty. How would people know that if she covered her face? I have no problem with the women who choose to do so, it is their decision, however, I don't believe it is fard, or obligatory. I also find it interesting how a picture of girls playing sports turns to a debate over islamic dress code. Especially since some of the girls in this picture aren't even muslim! As for the man talking about how he wishes more muslim women would dress beautifully, I'd like to ask him how I can ware a silk scarf and dress and manage to chase my toddlar around the house without him dripping a bit of his snack onto my clothing, or hop into my SUV comfortably without worrying about getting my skirt caught in the door. I'm not saying I don't like to dress up, I do so when the situation permits, but most days I like to throw on a baggy sweat suit or tunic and jeans. I am an american girl, and have little patience with the funny looks I get while wareing hijabs, so I usually keep my hair in a bun or a scarf tied under my chin, like Audry Hempburn used to. The point isn't to impress, or tun on men, it is to obey God. I imagine other muslimas feel the same way, which is why they dress "ugly" as you put it. It does not matter, my husband thinks I'm the most beautiful woman in the world,or so he tells me, especially when I'm covered from head to toe, because he knows he is the only one who knows what I look like underneath. Oh, and I am a muslim convert, by the way. I was raised in an oppressive society (america) where I grew up believing my main worth as a female was in my body. In islam I have been liberated from the constant worry of my sex appeal. That does not mean I think women should be forced against their will to dress conservatively or in drab colors, infact I am openly against it, but I do not agree with the exploitation of the female body. Oh, richsanter, not all Muslims think all americans are losers. How can we when many of us are American ourselves? I believe Miss Radi was hurt by a comment made earlier and was just speaking out in anger. It is also silly of you to take her words and use her as a spokesperson for all muslims. How can anyone of us reprsent everybody?
6:49 PM
I don't believe we have to cover our faces, infact, Aisha, one of the prophit Muhammad's (may peace be upon him) wives, was know for her beauty. How would people know that if she covered her face? I have no problem with the women who choose to do so, it is their decision, however, I don't believe it is fard, or obligatory. I also find it interesting how a picture of girls playing sports turns to a debate over islamic dress code. Especially since some of the girls in this picture aren't even muslim! As for the man talking about how he wishes more muslim women would dress beautifully, I'd like to ask him how I can ware a silk scarf and dress and manage to chase my toddlar around the house without him dripping a bit of his snack onto my clothing, or hop into my SUV comfortably without worrying about getting my skirt caught in the door. I'm not saying I don't like to dress up, I do so when the situation permits, but most days I like to throw on a baggy sweat suit or tunic and jeans. I am an american girl, and have little patience with the funny looks I get while wareing hijabs, so I usually keep my hair in a bun or a scarf tied under my chin, like Audry Hempburn used to. The point isn't to impress, or tun on men, it is to obey God. I imagine other muslimas feel the same way, which is why they dress "ugly" as you put it. It does not matter, my husband thinks I'm the most beautiful woman in the world,or so he tells me, especially when I'm covered from head to toe, because he knows he is the only one who knows what I look like underneath. Oh, and I am a muslim convert, by the way. I was raised in an oppressive society (america) where I grew up believing my main worth as a female was in my body. In islam I have been liberated from the constant worry of my sex appeal. That does not mean I think women should be forced against their will to dress conservatively or in drab colors, infact I am openly against it, but I do not agree with the exploitation of the female body. Oh, richsanter, not all Muslims think all americans are losers. How can we when many of us are American ourselves? I believe Miss Radi was hurt by a comment made earlier and was just speaking out in anger. It is also silly of you to take her words and use her as a spokesperson for all muslims. How can anyone of us reprsent everybody?
10:39 AM
I am an American Muslim myself. I converted about 2 years ago. Most Americans do not understand our religion what so ever and therefore they are racially profile and discrimnating against us. While celebrating Ramadan, a lot of fellow high school students were very questionative and down-right rude when I told them why I was fasting. Americans think things are "stupid, ugly, and a waste of time" when they are the ones who are clueless about the entire subject. I suggest that Islam should be more wide spread and that the unaware Americans and others that know nothing of our religion, (in no offense what-so-ever) get knowledgeable of something of grand importance rather than what American teenagers are currently.
1:54 PM
stephanie naber is a jordanian christian...not muslim!!!
4:33 AM
Im a muslim girl only 13 but i wished of wearing the hijab at the age of 8/9 So as for that girl who is wearing the scarf at the age of 9 and as one person pposted. Did u ever think she had hit puberty very early or maybe that she felt it was nessesary to cover her self at that age. What rite do u have telling people they r to young to wear a scarf. Oh and as for ugly and pretty scarfs u r missing the point. A head scarf is supposed to free u . A good example is a bird. This bird has been put in this opressive cage were by the louder is crys the more food it will get (the more revealing a persond dresses the more normal it is or the more attention it gets) when this bird embraces islam which is basicaly the key to its cage it can fly . Now for me it dont matter wether i am a flying dove or pigeon. As long as i am flying. Sorry for the kind of strange example but that was the best way i can explain it. And people feel there are too mmnay rules and obligations to the head scarf but think of it this way you have to cover ur baeuty(not just ur skin)I also dont understand why i have to defend myself . It is perfectly fine to walk out side in miniskirts and a ton of makeup on no matter how many rapes and abusive situations in may cause. But if someone chooses to cover themselves and to hide their buaty this is somehow a problem. i am equal to any man because i have not degraded myself to the standard many countries have set of a women which is that of a sex object. I beg of u to read the holy quran before u make judgements against muslims. When i talk to fellow christian students at my high school i always ask the quetions linked to the bible because to be honest that is alot more positive atitude it shows that i am actually serious when i ask them something and not trying to waster their time. And i think many muslims(not all)would be much more happy to answer questions when they now that person is serious and not just going to give them the sam old well thats stupid whats the point of the that enquiry.
P.S Very sorry about spelling and grammer mistakes but i was in quite a rush to get my opinions forward and i think that was the most important thing
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